Here is a couple of pics taken with the new FZ30. I've been trying this cam out for the past week and have come to the conclusion that I don't like it. I tried to see if a smaller lighter camera could replace my bigger gear when I don't want to cart it all. There is nothing wrong with the camera I just don't think I could sacrifice this much.
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I have a FZ20 and it took me time to get used to it...specially with the colors... and some sort of aberration you get in bright light... my pictures were very noisy always and I had to work a lot with this... I got very nice macros, portraits and pictures in the city, though...
I am taking pictures with a D70 about two months ago.... at the beginning I went out with both cameras... I compared pictures and now I really don't use it... I go out with a big bag, with all my Nikon gear, which is very heavy (around 3 kg. without the macro lens) but I know I will get what I want... then it doesn't bother me the carrying anymore

Irma Wrote:I have a FZ20 and it took me time to get used to it...specially with the colors... and some sort of aberration you get in bright light... my pictures were very noisy always and I had to work a lot with this... I got very nice macros, portraits and pictures in the city, though...
I am taking pictures with a D70 about two months ago.... at the beginning I went out with both cameras... I compared pictures and now I really don't use it... I go out with a big bag, with all my Nikon gear, which is very heavy (around 3 kg. without the macro lens) but I know I will get what I want... then it doesn't bother me the carrying anymore 
Your definitely right about the noise. Its a little worse with the FZ30. I am returnign this camera because I probably won't use it over my 20D.
Great shot GM. Where did you take the 2nd shot?
no doubt, I don't think I would compare it to the 20d either

Petographer Wrote:Great shot GM. Where did you take the 2nd shot?
The second shot is taken at a place just 20 minutes around the corner from where I live at a place called Spencer Gorge. This particular spot is called Webster Falls.
I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the technical aspects of the camera body don't play much of a part in the photo - with the possible exception of controlling noise and establishing the initial resolution. If you shoot RAW - everything else is correctable. The lens makes more of a difference, but even a poor lens can give good results in the right hands. Post processing is a great hardware leveler.
What I find is important in a camera these days is usability. How intuitive is the control layout, and how easy is it to power up, focus and shoot? These are the things that help you to get that shot when you see it - partuclarly if you don't have a lot of time to setup and compose. This is where some very technically superior cameras fall flat. Shooting with a camera for a week will tell you a lot about whether it works for you or not - the technical specs are just so much rubbish IMO. If the FZ30 doesn't feel right to you, it probably isn't - doesn't matter how good it is on paper or how someone else might like it.
On the other hand, I like having 2 cameras - my full meal deal Nikon rig - and a smaller carry around camera - there are a lot of times that I just don't want to take my Nikon with me - but I still "might" want to take a shot.
My Minolta A2 is with me far more often than my Nikon gear - the A2 is really intuitive and is a pleasure to use. Would it ever be able to replace my SLR? I vary back and forth on this. No doubt the SLR is superior - but sometimes having less equipment with me helps me to forget about screwing around with hardware and focus on the image.
Just my $.02
Toad Wrote:I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the technical aspects of the camera body don't play much of a part in the photo - with the possible exception of controlling noise and establishing the initial resolution. If you shoot RAW - everything else is correctable. The lens makes more of a difference, but even a poor lens can give good results in the right hands. Post processing is a great hardware leveler.
What I find is important in a camera these days is usability. How intuitive is the control layout, and how easy is it to power up, focus and shoot? These are the things that help you to get that shot when you see it - partuclarly if you don't have a lot of time to setup and compose. This is where some very technically superior cameras fall flat. Shooting with a camera for a week will tell you a lot about whether it works for you or not - the technical specs are just so much rubbish IMO. If the FZ30 doesn't feel right to you, it probably isn't - doesn't matter how good it is on paper or how someone else might like it.
On the other hand, I like having 2 cameras - my full meal deal Nikon rig - and a smaller carry around camera - there are a lot of times that I just don't want to take my Nikon with me - but I still "might" want to take a shot.
My Minolta A2 is with me far more often than my Nikon gear - the A2 is really intuitive and is a pleasure to use. Would it ever be able to replace my SLR? I vary back and forth on this. No doubt the SLR is superior - but sometimes having less equipment with me helps me to forget about screwing around with hardware and focus on the image.
Just my $.02
I've come to the conclusion that I would rather take the battery grip off my 20D slap the 50mm 1.8 on and that will be my smaller camera to take where I don't want to lug the bigger lenses. I'll just do best feet zooming I can manage.