[Pavel]

Everything is on a hill in the part of portugal we visited. Here it is like a jugle. Houses struggle to be tall enough to have light. Of course out hotel was at some distance from the center and so we had once or twice a day nice brisk walk up a steep hill or up the stairs (our choice). There is a cable car, but we did not take it, because we did not have time. Well here is one of the views.

[Zig]

Lovely shot(a tad dense again?)

[Pavel]

Too dark you think? Or do you think I should desaturate? Pavel

[Zig]

Hmm: it might be me, but it's as though saturation, contrast, gamma are all a bit overdone. Mind you I notice you also have your own style and conversion-method, so I'm hesitant to go any further than this really. It might even be my eyes, my monitor for instance. Are you using sRGB or Adobe for colourspace, or another method?

[Pavel]

Saturation I completely agree with you Zig and I will tone down. Contrast I find too much if either the shadows are too deep and lightening them I ge unacceptably bright highlights or if some parts of the image are too light and darkening them I would get too dark shadows. Neither of the two conditions apply in my view in this photo. How do you judge if the contrast is too much? Do you go by feeling? I often do too, but in this photo I did not think the contrast is too much although contrast is too much in my other shots (but I find it hard to reduce contrast further in those photos). I will try to reduce contrast in this photo and see if I like it. Please tell me what you mean by gamma. Is it note the slope of the linear component of the contrast curve and thus effectively meaning contrast? How do you distinguish between gamma and contrast? Can anybody help? Pavel

[enviroguy]

Hi, Pavel!

I don't have a clue what Gamma is either. Some of the software I have used have a slider to adjust the Gamma. It seems to have an immediate and dramatic result. You must have such a slider somewhwere within your software. Irma recommends using a gamma of 1.20. How much fun can we have in one day?

Regards.....Dennis

[NT73]

Gamma.
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm